Comments on: Apartment Building Bites the Dust on Blackburn http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/ You'll Now Find This Blog at Mondette.com Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:33:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Todd on Blackburn http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/comment-page-1/#comment-878 Todd on Blackburn Sat, 24 May 2008 07:43:49 +0000 http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/#comment-878 I'm not an absolute n0-new-development type; I just hate the (to my eyes) awful styles that are permitted in the area. Why are design restrictions so hard to achieve, and are they so evil? I know Southern California's rep is about freedom to do as one wishes; I just wish the developers' wishes included trying to coordinate with what is already in the area. And, no matter what, I despise the box-to-the-lot-lines designs. Can't we have some space between our buildings, and maybe a few trees and sunlight. That thing going up at Santa Monica & Hancock in WeHo is a great example. They're making a dark canyon out of that street. I’m not an absolute n0-new-development type; I just hate the (to my eyes) awful styles that are permitted in the area. Why are design restrictions so hard to achieve, and are they so evil? I know Southern California’s rep is about freedom to do as one wishes; I just wish the developers’ wishes included trying to coordinate with what is already in the area.

And, no matter what, I despise the box-to-the-lot-lines designs. Can’t we have some space between our buildings, and maybe a few trees and sunlight. That thing going up at Santa Monica & Hancock in WeHo is a great example. They’re making a dark canyon out of that street.

]]> By: Todd on Blackburn http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/comment-page-1/#comment-877 Todd on Blackburn Sat, 24 May 2008 07:31:51 +0000 http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/#comment-877 L.A.'s post-teardown-fest motto: "Los Angeles: Pretty Ugly!" L.A.’s post-teardown-fest motto:

“Los Angeles: Pretty Ugly!”

]]> By: Anonymous http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/comment-page-1/#comment-875 Anonymous Fri, 23 May 2008 20:23:03 +0000 http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/#comment-875 I own property in both that area as well as the Miracle Mile HPOZ area. I wholeheartedly agree with the teardowns being atrocious, but seeing the HPOZ in action I would say anything BUT an HPOZ is a good solution. HPOZ's are so awful, I have seen people with good intentions on how they want to fix up their property shot down by the HPOZ. I own property in both that area as well as the Miracle Mile HPOZ area. I wholeheartedly agree with the teardowns being atrocious, but seeing the HPOZ in action I would say anything BUT an HPOZ is a good solution. HPOZ’s are so awful, I have seen people with good intentions on how they want to fix up their property shot down by the HPOZ.

]]> By: alex the sea turtle http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/comment-page-1/#comment-874 alex the sea turtle Fri, 23 May 2008 16:39:46 +0000 http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/#comment-874 Miss Teresa you are so right. Unfortunately I know all two well from working on the ICO for the single family homes that there is way to much resistance to an HPOZ to ever see that happen let alone design standards. The neighborhood is changing. Remember that there are people here who love their historic homes/duplexes and restore and remodel them in ways that keep the original charm and increase their value. Unfortunately I think there are maybe a near equal number who don't. Miss Teresa you are so right. Unfortunately I know all two well from working on the ICO for the single family homes that there is way to much resistance to an HPOZ to ever see that happen let alone design standards.

The neighborhood is changing. Remember that there are people here who love their historic homes/duplexes and restore and remodel them in ways that keep the original charm and increase their value.

Unfortunately I think there are maybe a near equal number who don’t.

]]> By: Miss Teresa http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/comment-page-1/#comment-868 Miss Teresa Fri, 23 May 2008 01:06:43 +0000 http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/#comment-868 Regarding the style of the condo - just wait until the first visitor/pizza delivery guy slips and falls on the marble steps in front. There goes the $250,000 car. Regarding the style of the condo – just wait until the first visitor/pizza delivery guy slips and falls on the marble steps in front. There goes the $250,000 car.

]]> By: Miss Teresa http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/comment-page-1/#comment-867 Miss Teresa Fri, 23 May 2008 01:05:19 +0000 http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/#comment-867 There's nothing that can be done to stop the teardowns unless they are considered historic for some reason. Anything zoned above R2 (duplex) has the potential to be much taller and bigger per the City's zoning code. Unless the whole area is downsized or put into an HPOZ, you're out of luck. One way to go is to push Planning for design standards; this will allow new development, while limiting the fugly. There’s nothing that can be done to stop the teardowns unless they are considered historic for some reason. Anything zoned above R2 (duplex) has the potential to be much taller and bigger per the City’s zoning code. Unless the whole area is downsized or put into an HPOZ, you’re out of luck.

One way to go is to push Planning for design standards; this will allow new development, while limiting the fugly.

]]> By: Chaz (former Blackburnite) http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/comment-page-1/#comment-865 Chaz (former Blackburnite) Fri, 23 May 2008 00:40:41 +0000 http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/#comment-865 Another older buildings with character replaced with a poorly designed "Grove-esque" condo. I do hope that residents will speak up to defend the area's older buildings before it turns into West L.A. Another older buildings with character replaced with a poorly designed “Grove-esque” condo. I do hope that residents will speak up to defend the area’s older buildings before it turns into West L.A.

]]> By: alex the sea turtle http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/comment-page-1/#comment-864 alex the sea turtle Thu, 22 May 2008 21:54:34 +0000 http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/#comment-864 Nice catch Todd. I haven't gotten close enough to the place in reality to notice that. But after you pointed it out I see what you mean. Nice catch Todd. I haven’t gotten close enough to the place in reality to notice that. But after you pointed it out I see what you mean.

]]> By: Todd on Blackburn http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/comment-page-1/#comment-862 Todd on Blackburn Thu, 22 May 2008 16:43:12 +0000 http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/#comment-862 One of the "finer" points of that new condo building is the $4 light fixtures featured on the exterior. Very nice touch! They really add to the faux-Italian (?) style of the building. I've seen the dude who built this place. He was driving an Aston Martin DB9. I think that car sells for abt. $250,000. Couldn't he spring for decent lights? No, I guess not. Sigh... One of the “finer” points of that new condo building is the $4 light fixtures featured on the exterior. Very nice touch! They really add to the faux-Italian (?) style of the building.

I’ve seen the dude who built this place. He was driving an Aston Martin DB9. I think that car sells for abt. $250,000. Couldn’t he spring for decent lights? No, I guess not.

Sigh…

]]> By: alex the sea turtle http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/comment-page-1/#comment-861 alex the sea turtle Thu, 22 May 2008 14:45:38 +0000 http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/#comment-861 I am on curbed everyday - unless I am travelling. Just haven't felt compeled to respond to any of the posts lately. Thanks for the encouragement. I am on curbed everyday – unless I am travelling. Just haven’t felt compeled to respond to any of the posts lately.

Thanks for the encouragement.

]]> By: Anonymous http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/comment-page-1/#comment-858 Anonymous Wed, 21 May 2008 22:04:03 +0000 http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/#comment-858 Alex we miss you on the curbed.la blog. Come and visit sometime soon. Alex we miss you on the curbed.la blog. Come and visit sometime soon.

]]> By: James McMath http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/comment-page-1/#comment-856 James McMath Wed, 21 May 2008 17:41:15 +0000 http://blackburnandsweetzer.com/2008/05/20/apartment-building-bites-the-dust-on-blackburn/#comment-856 Who designs these things? There's no proportion or aesthetic consistency whatsoever. Looks like something designed by a child out of building blocks. Ugh. Who designs these things? There’s no proportion or aesthetic consistency whatsoever. Looks like something designed by a child out of building blocks. Ugh.

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